Coleman Hughes Demystifying Gender Dysphoria with Helen Joyce

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This is an excerpt of my conversation with Author & Editor at the Economist's events business, Helen Joyce. In this miniclip Helen and I talk about our thoughts on what Gender Dysphoria is, the possible causes of it, the impact of it & its implications on modern society.


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I'm not sure if I was just GNC or gender/body dysphoric. We didnt have the language for it 10-20 years ago. It felt debilitating, and I'm glad I had the time and space to grow out of it before it was politicized.

Author — Rachel Dee

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Thank you so much for covering this important issue, Coleman. As a lesbian who desisted from "gender dysphoria, " I can't stand the way it's marketed (that's the key to this whole issue - marketing - and especially marketing to LGB people) as something organic. The feeling that you're "in the wrong body" is a result of social circumstances; in the case of LGB people, it's often due to being told that our same-sex attraction is unnatural, that we're freaks for being different, that we'll never be accepted or loved for who we are. A huge number of lesbians, in particular, are now trying to become straight men through body modification, and destroying their mental and physical health in the process.

I'd love to see you cover the "cotton ceiling" or the "terf" controversy in the future, or perhaps interview an LGB advocacy group (LGB Fight Back would be my pick).

Author — Agatha Trunchbull

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Yay! i love Helen! Her latest book was a very interesting read. Kind of scary, frankly, but very informative and well written.

Author — One party roulé

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Yeah 5 years ago if a boy played with a doll, people would say it's okay, we should let him be. Now it means the boy might be a girl? Quite enforcing the stereotype.

Author — Ales Janosik

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I have no idea what it means to say “I feel like a woman”. I’m just me. I get cues from my culture of what’s expected, and cues from my culture via observation of behaviours of people with bodies like mine. The thing is these expectations and observations often don’t map onto each other, this was more pronounced in the past when constraints on how we were expected to be were more pronounced culturally and in law. Gender is a relatively new word. It emerged at a time when many of the cultural and legal constraints were still in place. This is why I think what Helen says about the dis-ease as something we create, either as an imposition from culture, or within our own minds based on observing if we fit the cues, has merit. I’ve been listening to a podcast series hosted by trans men who are re-examining what they think the causes of their dysphoria were and the reasons why they transitioned. A lot of it seems to be an internalised homophobia which they credit to a lack of acceptability cues of masculine behaving females in their geographical communities, and also, often, the religion they were raised in.

Author — roxee57

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I find that it is interesting also that this movement is gaining traction alongside BLM age racial justice and Immigrant rights politics. Both centre on identity and oppression, making the connection inevitable interlinked in every aspect. In that logic then, LGBTQ activists and identity politics likely too began working on these links, growing up gay, I saw this more frequently in my late teens when Instagram was on rise. I think we really need to decode oppression, gender, discrimination and distress because there is clear oppression that exists and there is clear distress that exists but they are not one and the same thing. I also wonder if others can throw some wisdom in the chat about this but the neo pronoun thing especially noun pronoun just seems like a terrible fad that is making rounds on the internet that will either mess stuff really bad or will die out as a fad as adjusting to millions of rules to address others with pronouns sounds impossible.

Author — Utkarsh Dube

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Thank you, Coleman! Highly recommend Joyce’s book.

Author — Nat Hat

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Helen and Katherine Stock are the few intellectuals looking at transgenderism from a dispassionate perspective.

Author — Mon Jarcus

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How dare she bring such calm common sense to the topic! Disgraceful!!

Author — Zen Robot Ninja

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What people are ignoring is this is a group of people who have BODY dysphoria. Lots of people are discontent with their body. Claiming gender dysphoria is more sellable.

I enjoyed this conversation with Helen Joyce. I used this follow her on Twitter before I got off.

Author — I am Kesha

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People want to be special, so they give their anxieties new names (or appropriate existing ones) and demand special treatment. Unless you have been diagnosed by a specialist with tons of experience as having chronic Gender Dysphoria, you're very likely just a normal nervous wreck like everybody else.

Author — Tim - KFP Assistant Dishwasher

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The best clip I've ever watched on this subject. Fascinating guest!!

Author — Tranquillo

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The Gender Birth Assignment Wizard: "Nurse, hand me the sorting hat!"

Author — Iris E

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She seems to really get it. I should read her book.

Author — EDANYA

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Thanks Coleman for having the fair and logical Dr Joyce.

Author — Mon Jarcus

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...and modern Trans activist people completely ignore the phenomenon of autogynephilia...

Author — therealmrfishpaste

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The problem with these ideas is there is no specificity. What does “not feel like a man” mean exactly? You don’t want to watch sports? You prefer to pee sitting down? You ask for directions when you’re lost?

Author — Sulaiman Abdul-Mateen

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I know firsthand about someone who was vacationing in Hawaii. She told her mom, "Why hasn't anyone noticed I'm trans?"

Author — Norman Wall

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If someone wants to dress a certain way, be called a certain name, or use they/them pronouns, I don't care whether it was created by society or not. It's their decision, their life, and it's none of my business to tell other people how to live their lives. If they end up regretting it, they are adults and those decisions are on them.

The only place where the social contagion thing is relevant is with young teenagers and children who might not have the maturity to make very long-term health decisions. In those cases, we should just make children wait till they are 18 till they can make permanent medical changes.

Author — Anna Gordon

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I want Ben Shapiro to talk to this lady. Probly would save him alot of time and would be educational

Author — Zmo 1n'Done