The Disunited States: Is the Trump presidency causing irreparable damage to America?

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America has never seen anything like this. Time and again, Donald Trump has attacked the very fabric of US democracy. He has called the press ‘the enemy of the American people’. He says that claims that Russia interfered in the US election are a hoax. And that the FBI - currently investigating his campaign - should be personally loyal to the president.

And it’s not just political institutions Trump is damaging, his opponents say: in America he has stoked racial tension, coddled Wall Street and given succour to the gun lobby. On the world stage, he’s alienated key allies, slapped $50 billion in tariffs on China that may spark off a trade war, and appointed the hawkish John Bolton, who has advocated regime change in Iran and North Korea, as national security adviser.

If Trump is a new kind of threat, the big question is whether the damage he is doing to America will be permanent. Will the country that survived two world wars, the Cold War and the attacks of 9/11 really be put off its stride by a reality show host who could be gone in less than three years’ time? Or is Trump dismantling the robust system that has kept America united and irreparably damaging its standing as the most powerful nation on earth?

But perhaps this is all liberal hand-wringing. Could Trump, in fact, be that rarest of things - a politician who delivers on his promises - and prove to be the reformer the American electorate voted for?

To examine the political health and standing of the United States at this crucial moment, Intelligence Squared brought together Ronan Farrow, former US government adviser and journalist, who has just been awarded the Pulitzer Prize for breaking the Harvey Weinstein scandal; Mark Lilla, the American political scientist who hit the headlines last year with an article arguing that it is the left’s preoccupation with identity politics that opened the door to Trump’s victory; Lionel Shriver, award-winning novelist and commentator; and Brian Klaas, an expert on authoritarianism who claims that with every autocratic tweet Trump is edging America away from its democratic norms.

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Interestingly, many veterans (myself included) are pretty liberal-minded. We are pro-gun, but support stricter regulations that the NRA vehemently oppose. Most of us are pro-choice. Many of us support LGBT rights, or just don't understand the opposition to treating every person equally. From a veteran's perspective, especially with many of us having served in Iraq and Afghanistan, basing ANY political decisions on religion seems ludicrous.

Author — theycallmemrshaggs

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From so many perspectives we are now witnessing the demise of not only the US but also the disintegration of the coherence of the formerly allied nations(think NATO UN etc).
The spectre of China/Russia world domination and the subsequent degradation of global human rights is looming.

Author — JazlDazl

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Come on people, the elections are rigged, but instead everyone whines about not knowing their country, etc... FIX THE DAMN ELECTION THEFT

Author — Solgatito Tigru Blogopogojoyotenango

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The biggest problem with democracy is that it is manipulated by deep pockets with unlimited funds for misinformation campaigns.

Author — Reason

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People complaining about this being an echo chamber are failing to recognize that the accepted claim is that Trump has, in fact, caused damage to the country. They're discussing whether that damage is irreparable and how to best address it. A Trump supporter wouldn't have a place in the conversation because they would never agree to the premise to begin with.

Author — Dave Bryan

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Democrats need to make the argument for managed capitalism (but not socialism). Trump wants unfettered capitalism, but this will ultimately create huge wealth inequality. Already the middle class (not to mention the poor) cannot afford their housing, college for kids, and health care and will have nothing for retirement. When the people realize that the government can help them while pure capitalism will destroy them, then the Republicans will lose.

Author — Jonathan C

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Bernie Sanders policies are what the Democratic party should be all about - end wars, free quality education and job training, medicare for all, housing for profit needs to abolished, public transport,
raise taxes on those with in come above $250, 000, respect for ALL people, keep religion in private, hold people accountable for abuse of others (verbal, sexual, physical, religious), freedom from of
speech, freedom from want, work towards green, sustainable energy. Adequate income for all..Freedom of information. Nobody having to live out of doors.

Author — Noreen Happel

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Remember when they had opposing views...

Author — Mat Mem

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Dear Ronan, please continue to use your gifts and social contact to help the helpless. We are ALL proud of you!🕯🤗☕

Author — Green Orchid

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5 people who all think the same thing is not intelligence squared, it's intelligence halved...

Author — Max S

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Damnit IQ2! I come to you for debates, not academic echo chambers...

Author — ZRTSTRA

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There certainly are a lot of spooked trolls rushing in here to comment.

Author — Ver Coda

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Not an echo chamber, but consensus on evident realities.

Author — Tam McD

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This is why Trump was voted in. It’s the realization that these, self identified, know it alls, don’t know it all. They do almost no self examination in a way that blinds them.

Author — David Fillingim

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A grownup conversation
Refreshing
Thank you

Author — Tina King

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Ignore the inevitable Russian shills and Trumplodyte trolls. Don't respond directly because doing so boosts their malevolence up the comment rankings. Instead, thumb them down and refute their content in free-standing comments.

Author — Tam McD

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The left created Trump by playing identity politics against white people rather than looking after the working class. But lets pretend they are not equally or more responsible for the current divisions in the nation.

Author — Siddhartha02

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Saudi Arabia has a heavy influence on US policy but Israel does as well, in fact Israel has for some time had an outsize influence on US politics but more so now than ever, make no mistake, Bibi was gleeful when Trump was elected seeing him, no doubt, as a useful puppet.

Author — omfug

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4 upperclass white liberals who all think the same... iqsquared really couldn't get any diversity of thought here???

Author — ophelia27

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That moment when you realize the panel is composed fully by left wing journalists.. IQ2 has lost it's value.

Author — Argowal